Marriage Series: Should the Christian Wedding Vows Be Changed To, “As Long as We Both Shall Love?”

Our Marriage Series continues! This week, Dr. Kenneth Hammonds takes a look at changes to modern Christian marriage vows. Should our vows change for good? Please CLICK HERE to take our poll on Facebook. 

As my wife, Naomi, and I enjoyed a rare day off today, I looked at her and thought, “You know – I really love this woman” (and by the way, I rarely miss a day telling her so). We are soon to celebrate 42 years as husband and wife.

The moment reminded me of an episode of one of my favorite TV shows called “Rhoda,” from back in the late 1970s (yeah, way back in the last century). Rhoda was a beloved character from the wildly popular “The Mary Tyler Moore Show.” She was a wise-cracking, single woman whose dating ups-and-downs were the subject of her humor. But in Episode 1 of “Rhoda,” she’d meet Joe…and Rhoda was going to be married.



I remember the special hour-long episode where Rhoda and her fiancé, Joe, exchanged their wedding vows. Viewed by more than 52 million people, the episode was a touching TV moment. A recent article about the show described ‘Rhoda’s Wedding’ as “a television landmark,” becoming the highest-rated television episode of the 1970s, a record it kept until the original Roots miniseries claimed the title in 1977.

Should the Christian Wedding Vows Be Changed To
“As Long as We Both Shall Love?” Actors Valerie Harper and David Groh from the series, “Rhoda”.

While watching this historic event back in 1974, I also remember clearly being shocked and surprised, however, to hear Rhoda and the man she loved vow:

“to live together as husband and wife, as long as we both shall love.”

Well, I’ve been to a few weddings in my day, and being a Christian minister, I’ve also officiated some, yet I have never heard any couple speak this phrase. But in today’s world – and even in the lives of Christians – the idea of marriage “as long as we shall love” seems to be lived out by many couples.

Although the American divorce rate is down in comparison with the 1970s, 80s and 90s, it is still higher (on a per capita basis, for every 1,000 people in the US) than it was almost 80 years ago, after the nation had endured the Great Depression. Today, article after article continues to promote the idea that ½ of all marriages end in divorce. So, is marriage really supposed to be forever? And should the vows be changed to “as long as we shall love?”



If a man makes a vow to the Lord, he shall not break his word. Numbers 30:2 

God takes vows pretty seriously. A “vow” in the Old Testament could be made between an individual and God or between two people. Whether to God or to man, a vow was considered a sacred, consecrated promise. It was a personal obligation that was to be fulfilled.

Today’s views on wedding vows and their content, however, are divided. Some still prefer the traditional phrase “As long as we both shall live,” while others seem to prefer the more modern “love.” An informal survey of both celebrity and civilian wedding vows around the world reveals that the phrases “as long as we both shall live,” or “’till death do us part” are still utilized and may even be preferred.

For example:

  • At their 2011 wedding, the Prince and Princess of Wales promised matrimony “so long as ye both shall live,” and “’til death us do part.”
  • Some Hindu wedding vows use the wonderfully poetic phrase, “Till both of us, with age, grow old.”
  • The book, 50 New and Traditional Wedding Vows, plus How to Write Your Own Vows: 10 Guides by Maria Kay, includes the modernized phrase, “all the days of my life.”

Many seem to believe that even if “forever” is not attainable, they still prefer the idea. Could concepts such as “promise,” “sacred,” “consecrated,” and “personal obligation” be of a bygone era?



If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. 1 John 4:12

Love is an interesting human emotion (pain, pleasure, pressure, or whatever you wish to term it), particularly as it relates to the Western “civilized” society’s understanding of marriage. For many couples seeking holy matrimony today, love is that wild emotion; that tingling feeling down on the inside, that little taste of sexual fornication before marriage (if the marriage even happens at all). Others call it “indigestion” or “infidelity”: a breach of trust against God; the kind of stuff that is well below God’s righteous standard for our Best Christian living. This kind of personal, self-absorbed human love for many is merely a blind coagulation of looks, lust, and lucre.

The Greek word psychō (pronounced PSUE- ko;  ψύχω in Greek) refers to a human love that is gradually lessening in its fervor, power, and joy; waning, disintegrating, and evaporating away into non-existence. And the Scriptures do speak of a lower, less developed human-level type of love in Matthew 24:12, where Jesus predicted that the last days would be a time where “the love of many will grow cold” (NKJV). Bible Commentator, Marvin Vincent, defines this growing-colder-human-kind-of-love as a “spiritual energy blighted or chilled by a malign or poisonous wind.”  I would say that this “psychō”-type of love changed up on you! It was passionate, fiery, hot, and alive; but now, cooled off by the winds of time, adversity, or simply the desire for change, it has become cold, distant, impassionate, and dead.

Having spoken of a cold non-agapē love, we must ask, “Exactly what then is agapē in the fuller Christian expansion of this Greek word?” The best description of agapē in summary says:

Agapē is the highest form of love, a God-kind-of-love, whereby the one loving loves the one being loved unconditionally and also seeks that individual’s highest good and well-being.”

And in any human relationship, marriage or otherwise, we will need God to reach into the depths of our spiritual being to show this Christian agapē-love.



“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways” saith the LORD – Isaiah 55:8

Should marriage Vows Be Changed To “As long As We Both Shall Love”? Graph charting 144 years of marriage and divorce in America.

Jesus’ theology of marriage was too much for even His disciples to take in. He said, regarding the short-term marriage idea, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so… whoever divorces his wife… commits adultery.” You might respond in shock like the disciples did, saying, “Well Jesus, if this is your view of marriage, it’s better for us not to get married, at all!” (Matthew 19:1-10).

There may also be some young adults today who may say of the Christian marriage vow to love someone for the rest of their lives, “I can’t make that kind of commitment. I don’t know what may happen in the future.”  Maybe modern believers in Christ should just make no such “vows” at all if they are too hard to keep!

Okay, I’m in my 60s. I came from a different era (the generation which created the modern sexual revolution, by the way), but I still believe in the fervent seeking which lives out (or loves out) the biblical standard of marriage: “One woman for one man for life.” Yes, I know there are sometimes extreme challenges to this concept, but in our Christian life’s teaching and living, we must still speak and seek to live up to the best of God’s will, and God’s standard for the best functioning of human society, especially in these modern times. With Jesus, and our own personal commitment, we can perfect, improve, enhance, and advance love.

That’s possible: so, let’s do it daily.



Now back to the phrase, “as long as we both shall love”: should the Christian marriage vows be amended or changed to, “as long as we both shall LOVE” for this modern day, or remain “as long as we both shall LIVE” as it is has stated for the past 500 years or so?

Please answer on Facebook with a simple one liner. Include:

  1. Your age group (20’s, 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, etc.) and
  2. One word: “love” or “live” for how you think the vow should read.

Please, be honest. Don’t answer what you think we want to hear! Please feel free to forward this piece to your Christian friends and family; I’d love to hear their answers also.

As for me, I don’t see my 40 years of marriage to my lovely wife as some drudgery or lifelong slavery to an old vow, but rather as a wonderful and joyful relationship. It is for me a daily opportunity to say and honor “I do,” as in “I do love you and cherish you, as well as all the other good and the difficult stuff that’s part of any agapē relationship.”



“Dear Lord, I thank you for the spouse of my youth. It is an honor have him/her chosen for me by You for the enjoyment of our lives together serving Your purpose and glory. 

In Jesus’ name, Amen.”


SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES – Numbers 30:2-4, 1 Corinthians 13:8, Matthew 19:1-10, 24:12; Isaiah 55:8, 1 John 2:5; 4:12, 17. 

DR. KENNETH HAMMONDS (M.Div., Ed.D.) is a Discipleship Thinker- Teacher-Doer and Director of Christian Discipleship (Perfecting Believers) for West Angeles Church of God in Christ and Sector Leader for the Adult Ministries Division of the church. Of special theological interest for Dr. Hammonds is the discussion and development of a Theology of Discipleship that is spiritually vibrate, biblically sound, and personally practical.Dr. Hammonds has been a member of West Angeles for 30 years and serves on the Executive Staff as a Division Head. He also serves the Body of Christ as a Certified Life and Leadership Coach, and as a passionate New Testament Greek Trainer. He has been in Christian Ministry for over 45 years.



  • Two years after the “Rhoda” show began, Rhoda and her husband, Joe, broke up and later divorced. Joe revealed to his stunned wife that he had never really wanted to marry her. He said he only married her because she had pressured him into it after he’d invited her to live with him (it seems that an invitation to “move into my apartment” is not the same as an invitation to “move into my life in marriage.” Interesting ending to the vow, “as long as we both shall love”)!
  • The English word psycho is not related in meaning to the Greek word psychō, but rather a slang form of the term “psychopath.” The relationship between the Greek and English words is just an interesting coincidence!
  • The first known reference to the English phrase, “till death us do part” is in the Church of England’s “Book of Common Prayer” in 1529.
  • The idea of a marriage ceremony in the Christian Church seems to have become practice around the 9th century; however, as early as the 4th century there is evidence of couples seeking the blessing of the Church. Couples married in keeping with local customs and/or family traditions, making their own wedding “vows” of commitment, or having vows handed down to them.
  • On Valentine’s Day 2014, Pope Francis challenged 10,000 engaged couples who gathered in St. Peter’s square to consider marriage not as a temporary relationship, but as “The Joy of ‘Yes’ forever.” He said “It is still possible to take the risk of saying ‘forever’…it takes courage, but forever is a prospect that brings joy and allows us to look to the future.

Discipleship: Please Join Us for Movie Night!

The West Angeles Department of Discipleship would like to invite you to our April MOVIE NIGHT!

Witness the transforming power of forgiveness in the movie, THE GRACE CARD, where a police officer and part-time Pastor work together in life-threatening situations, even when they don’t see eye to eye on anything else.

Everything can change in an instant…and take a lifetime to unravel. Every day, we have the opportunity to rebuild relationships by extending and receiving God’s grace. Offer The Grace Card, and never underestimate the power of God’s love.

West Angeles Discipleship movie Grace Card

Join us at the West Angeles North Campus on

Friday, April 21, in Room 8 at 7 p.m.

Address: 3045 Crenshaw Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90016

How to be a Positive Example to Others

Dr. Tonya Lewis discusses three ways we can be a positive example to others: with our speech, with our actions, and with our lives.


Talk, talk, talk! It is much easier to say things – whatever they may be – than to actually do them. It doesn’t take long before others become weary of the talk we’re proud to use to influence them. We forget that “talk is cheap.” Instead of talking about it, we must “be about it.”

How many times have we missed the blessings and the good we could have been experienced, if only we had done what we talked about? When it is all said and done, deeds impress us, rather than words. In 1 Timothy 4:12, Paul penned,

…Be an example to all believers in what you say, in the way you live, in your love, your faith, and your purity.

To be means that effort will have to be applied to produce the results of being. We must demonstrate Godly qualities in every area of our lives; for who we are will be exhibited in every area of our lives. For instance, if we lie to our employers, then we will lie to others. We must therefore practice being trustworthy in what we say, and in the way we live. Our outstanding and credible character should precede our names. Our words and lives should be so respectable, that those around us would hastily run to our defense when others accuse us.


ARE YOU LOVING?scripture-graphic1

Love is an action word; therefore, our lives must be full of loving actions. Some questions to ask ourselves:

  1. How do we react to the pain of others?
  2. How do we express our compassion, encouragement and support of others?
  3. Are others enriched because they have interacted with us, or are they, instead in a reduced state after interacting with us? 4. Do we encourage trust and patience in the love of God, or do we project worry, doubt, and fear: both to others and to ourselves?

If our Father is the Great God of the Universe whose very essence is love, then we must reflect His loving essence in our own lives. Our confession of faith in God must be genuine; it must be demonstrated beyond Sunday morning services, and impact what we say to others and to ourselves.



We don’t want to just proclaim holiness; we don’t want to live questionable Christian lives. We want to be holy and God-like in all that we say, do, and believe. How we live and show love should clearly associate us with the Lord in the eyes of others.

God requires us to be examples of His glory – both to believers and to unbelievers –  for our actions do positively or negatively influence others. 1 John 3:7-10 (NLT) says,

“When people do what is right, it shows that they are righteous, even as Christ is righteous. 8 But when people keep on sinning, it shows that they belong to the devil, who has been sinning since the beginning. But the Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God 10 So now we can tell who are children of God and who are children of the devil. Anyone who does not live righteously and does not love other believers does not belong to God.



We should desire for our lives the evaluation of Joshua 22:2-3,5-6:

He told them, “You have done as Moses, the servant of the LORD, commanded you, and you have obeyed every order I have given you. 3You have been careful to obey the commands of the LORD your God right up to the present day. 5- But be very careful to obey all the commands and the instructions that Moses gave to you. Love the LORD your God, walk in all His ways, obey His commands, hold firmly to Him, and serve Him with all your heart and all your soul.” 6 So Joshua blessed them and sent them away, and they went home.

For this to be the evaluation of our actions, we must obey God. By being a positive example to others, we benefit them as well as ourselves. As Kingdom Citizen Representatives, let’s utilize every opportunity to be a positive example for the glory of God.

Photo, courtesy David Pugh.

Elders Corner: Elder Hammonds’ 4 Dynamic Relationships for Deeper Discipleship

Welcome to the latest addition to our Elders Corner series. In this edition, Elder Dr. Kenneth Hammonds examines what it means to be a disciple of God…and explains exactly how to determine how D.E.E.P. our love for God actually goes.

“Making converts is essential, but the job isn’t finished until those converts are discipled.” — Ed Stetzer

The Church of God in Christ’s denominational theme for 2015 from our Presiding Bishop Charles Edward Blake is a powerful call to a full commitment to the Lord Jesus Christ. Indeed, it is a clarion call to full Christian discipleship:

“Christ’s Extreme Sacrifice Calls for Our Extreme Commitment”

But who in our modern-day, Post-Christian Era, cares about or talks much about discipleship? Wasn’t that something those twelve apostles did when Jesus was on earth? And what does that have to do with me in this 21st century?

These questions represent views shared by many Christians today, but they don’t even touch the surface of the true, biblical concept of discipleship and its core word, disciple.


At first glance, the New Testament word for disciple, mathētēs (pronounced mah-thay-TACE), is quite simple with no depth. It means learner; apprentice. However, during the classical Greek period (c. 400 BC) a mathētēs moves deeper in meaning from a mere student or apprentice to a full-fledged follower; an enthusiastic adherent spreading the philosopher/teacher’s teachings. This word reaches its full purpose however, when a mathētēs also becomes a loyal teacher.

So, let’s clear the air of the simple for the deep, and immerse ourselves into the reality and power of the idea of being a disciple of Jesus Christ.


I have developed an acrostic that I trust will be useful for our discussion of this central word of the Gospels and Acts. The Disciple Acrostic is:


There are four dynamic, action-based relationships of the disciple of Jesus Christ to his or her Teacher and Lord. The disciples’ thinking, acting, and serving are ‘deep’-rooted and grounded within Him:

D – Devoted: A Disciple is a devoted believer in Jesus Christ.

The believer in the NT means, “one who is committed (fully devoted) to a person, belief or thing.” The disciple of Jesus has declared and must develop a full devotion to Him and serve Him. Jesus does not share Lordship’s first place. The preachers have said it and it is true, “Either He is Lord of all or He is not Lord at all.”

Personal Q: Is Christ Lord over every area of your life? (Colossians 3:24; Galatians 6:1-2; Proverbs 16:18)

E – Embraces: A Disciple embraces the teachings and lifestyle of Jesus Christ our Teacher and Lord.

Do you simply tolerate or even just blatantly ignore some of the demands and tough spiritual and personal challenges from the Word of God?

Personal Q: Have you fully embraced (eagerly, readily with opened arms) all that God has told you to do and be?

E – Enthusiastic: A Disciple is an enthusiastic and active adherent of Jesus Christ. The adherent of Jesus is “All into Him” and sticks to the Master even when the times are rough. He or she is no “fair-weather saint.”

Personal Q: Are you really enthusiastic about the Lord and having Him in your life? Enthusiastic worship, service, and living are the beginning of personal evangelism.

P – Promotes: A Christian Disciple assists in promoting and spreading the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Word of God.

The enthusiastic disciple is so excited about the Message and Man, Jesus Christ, that he or she spreads his Word and teachings and promotes his causes whenever and wherever possible. Ephesians 5:16 enjoins us to “make the most of every opportunity” for Christian service and our commitment to Him.

Personal Q: Do you like spreading the Word about Jesus to all groups of people? Or do you think it is the designated task of a few “chosen and gifted” ones?

If you don’t like “preaching,” just share with others the wonderful things your Savior has done for you and your life. Anyone who has a deep, devoted, enthusiastic love for Him can do this.


So, there it is. As believers in Jesus the Christ (God’s Uniquely Anointed One), we are D.E.E.P. into Discipleship.

This short discussion in no way covers all the myriad of ways to look at discipleship. But, hopefully these few words will serve as a beginning for a new growing relationship with the Lord, and perhaps also serve as a useful tool as you train, teach, empower, and disciple others.

About Dr. Kenneth Hammonds
Kenneth Hammonds (M.Div., Ed.D.) has been in Christian Ministry for over 45 years and is Director of Discipleship at West Angeles Church and Sector Leader of the Adult Ministries Division (Seven Department Ministries). He is an experienced New Testament Greek Trainer and author of “An Introduction to New Testament Greek Grammar for Word Studies,” and is also author of a biblically-based wealth-building commentary for Christian entrepreneurs entitled, “God Wants You To Be Wealthy.”

Source material for mathētēs (disciple):
1. Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Abridged in One Volume, Kittel and Friedrich, Editors. Geoffrey Bromiley, Translator.
2. A Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, Walter Bauer./Translation by, Arndt and Gingrich.